Talk:Theodor W. Adorno

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Theodor W. Adorno is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.

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May 25, 2005	Featured article candidate	Not promoted

What happened to his father in Germany after he himself fled Germany?

Did I miss something? Did his Jewish father survived in Nazi-Germany? 2003:C6:BF46:4901:1FB:94DA:A06C:EF0C (talk) 07:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to this article (in German), his parents fled to the US in 1939. This article (in German) in the Stolperstein project is more extensive. Both parents fled via Cuba to the US and died in New York, Oskar in 1946, Maria in 1952. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

edit to first sentence of lead

Hi all,

I propose that the first sentence of the lead be rewritten as follows:

Theodor W. Adorno (/əˈdɔːrnoʊ/ ə-DOR-noh, German: [ˈteːodoːɐ̯ ʔaˈdɔʁno] ^ⓘ; born Theodor Ludwig Wiesengrund; 11 September 1903 – 6 August 1969) was a German philosopher, social theorist, and musicologist.

We should keep it to no more than three roles unless there is very good reason to the contrary. (See the WP policy, which in this case I think is good.) There might be a better variant of "social theorist", but the other two seem obvious. He was not a psychologist, and is not known for being a composer. Another option would be simply "philosopher".

I read the entire article yesterday and gave it a (little-needed) copy edit in the process of checking for the introduction of material inserted to support the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, which has made its way into related articles. This one seems clean. Must be too intimidating!

That is just to say that my proposal is based, not only upon my own estimation of my own knowledge of the subject, but also upon what is supported by the article.

I'll leave this here a while for discussion and swing back around to make the change if no one responds within a few days. We can always reopen the issue if anyone who disagrees only finds this after the edit.

Cheers, Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 23:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish?

The article says "His mother, a Catholic from Corsica, was once a professional singer, while his father, an assimilated Jew who had converted to Protestantism, ran a successful wine-export business." So in what way was Theodor Jewish? Presumably only just by descent, not by religion, although he did have some contact with Jewish organisations? Are all of the six Jewish Categories justified? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well that had the effect of an IP trying to remove the context of his father's conversion. I've reverted that change but I think we should probably open the discussion with what reliable sources say about Adorno's religion. I know far right types like to think all us scary neo-Marxists are part of a Jewish conspiracy but what do the actual sources say? Simonm223 (talk) 12:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing on Isreal or Zionism?

I haven't read on his life (I will do someday) but I've tried searching whether or not he ever visted Israel or wrote anything in favour or negative or Zionism in general but I haven't been able to find much. Is there anything? AssanEcho (talk) 17:55, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

pseudo-individualization

article says "Consumers purchase the illusion that every commodity or product is tailored to the individual's personal preference, by incorporating subtle modifications or inexpensive "add-ons" in order to keep the consumer returning for new purchases, and therefore more revenue for the corporation system. Adorno conceptualized this phenomenon as pseudo-individualisation and the always-the-same."

But on page 125 of Dialectic of Enlightenment: Philosophical Fragments he mentions pseudo-individualization (pseudoindividuality), but it seems to refer not necessarily to specific buying of add-ons, but more so highly controlled quirks, imperfections, and/ or 'accidents' in order to individualize controlled culture. Am I missing something here or is there a different text this is referring to? I have little to go on as it is uncited. Dustinbauer133 (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]